my college does themed backgrounds depending on the week and this is their anti-bullying week’s one omfg
badgirl675 strikes again
I misread “ur a loser” as “ur a boner”
Ladies and Gentlemen, the Prime Minister of Australia kicking ass and taking names (mostly Tony Abbott’s). [x
Will reblog this every single time I see it.
Love that he has to take a moment to look up from his watch to say, “Oh, come on.”
PREACH.
This “why should I have to accommodate a vegan’s choices when they can’t accommodate mine” debate actually sounds a /lot/ like a white privilege debate.
metamorphoseandbodhi said: “Not really. Vegans have a choice. Now people with special dietary needs due to a legitimate medical issue is a different story. But even then one shouldn’t expect to be accomadated cause it ain’t gonna happen most times. My stepmother would know.”
I’m talking about the kind of language being used. Yeah, it’s a choice, and I never said that a vegan /should/ expect accommodation. No one should /expect/ anything. That’s why you ask and talk this shit out like rational adults. When I say it sounds like a white privilege debate what I mean is that particular guy was sounding like a white guy who’s never a thought a day about racism and just can’t understand why all the coloreds get in a tizzy over this and that. It’s ignorance. His comment about not respecting other people’s religions was really telling. The only thing he cares about is what is immediately applicable to his reality, everything else that he can’t “make sense” of is obviously just dumb and whoever believes it is dumb and they should just bow to his superior logic. That’s a pretty privileged perspective, you ask me.
And you know what? I’ve talked to a couple people about this and every time someone says some variation of “They have a choice unless they have a legitimate medical condition.” Yeah, a vegan chooses to be a vegan, but they deserve for their choice to be respected without the assumption that at any given moment they might choose not to be a vegan.
Well, THAT escalated quickly.
Have you ever noticed that when a vegan comes over, they always expect you to have vegan food for them. But…
No it’s not. It’s not any more likely. Do you cook steak dishes for your oh so accommodating friends and family or do you only expect them to accommodate you but not vice versa? That’s what this post is all about. Why the hell should I be expected to make a vegan some specialty dish just for them when they won’t do the same for me? Why would I go through all the trouble when they are unwilling to return the favor? Seems really selfish. Really. really. Selfish.
The fact is, they wouldn’t ask for a meat dish. They know that I’m vegan, and they expect me to eat vegan food, and they will also eat the vegan dish because guess what, Vegan food is ‘normal’ food. They usually think “oh, neat, this is what vegans eat” and sometimes go “wow, this is really good.” I don’t know what would happen if they ask me for a meat dish, since it’s never happened.
There’s a major difference between what we consider to be selfish though, and I think that we’ll never come to an agreement on this. Granted, I don’t think you even have vegan friends.Ihad vegan friends. But because I won’t cater to their every whim and desire. I no longer do. And I do not mourn that. It’s absurdly selfish for someone to expect one party to do everything that they ask and never give the other party what they ask. So I say again. Why do vegans ask everyone else to make special arrangements for them, when they make no effort to do the same? How is that not pretentious?If we were talking about someone whose religion barred them from a certain food group, would this conversation still be happening? Take away all the assumptions here, leave it down to just basics.
If you’re throwing a party and you have a vegan friend coming over, and they ask you to have something vegan-friendly available, that isn’t pretentious. It’d be pretentious as shit if they demanded it, but at that point we’re talking about assholes, not vegans. Either way, if it’s too much to ask to have a vegan dish, you’ll just have one person at your party who doesn’t eat and is surrounded by people who are eating. Kind of a bummer, but hey, they can always bring their own food if they have to, right? As long as no one’s being dicks to each other, it’s fine.
Flip it around, your vegan friend is throwing a vegan party. You ask if they could have some steak for you, because you aren’t vegan. Cue HORRIFIED STARE. The difference here is that a vegan is making a choice that involves more than just their diet. One of the things that I admire most about veganism is that fundamentally it’s a mindset. Having a steak ready for you at that point isn’t an accommodation, it’s a betrayal of beliefs. And again, you can always bring your own food, though you might get some nasty stares. Just don’t be dicks, man. That’s all it takes.
I don’t cater to peoples imaginary friends beliefs either. So I don’t give a crap about their religious beliefs either. If they expect me to cater to their special needs, they better be willing to cater to my non special needs. It’s just as much a choice on their part to not eat something as it is mine to eat something. Maybe if someone was born a vegan then I would cater to them. BUT NO ONE IS BORN THAT WAY.
I don’t want to be mean but you’re acting like a white guy who just told a racist joke in a group of black people and they’re all looking at you like you’re a dick, and you don’t understand why they’re mad and you just keep saying “no, it’s okay, I’m not racist, I have black friends”
That literally doesn’t even make sense. At all. But that’s a comparison that comes from not knowing me at all. Because I make racist jokes in front of black people all the time. They can get over it.

Have you ever noticed that when a vegan comes over, they always expect you to have vegan food for them. But…
No it’s not. It’s not any more likely. Do you cook steak dishes for your oh so accommodating friends and family or do you only expect them to accommodate you but not vice versa? That’s what this post is all about. Why the hell should I be expected to make a vegan some specialty dish just for them when they won’t do the same for me? Why would I go through all the trouble when they are unwilling to return the favor? Seems really selfish. Really. really. Selfish.
The fact is, they wouldn’t ask for a meat dish. They know that I’m vegan, and they expect me to eat vegan food, and they will also eat the vegan dish because guess what, Vegan food is ‘normal’ food. They usually think “oh, neat, this is what vegans eat” and sometimes go “wow, this is really good.” I don’t know what would happen if they ask me for a meat dish, since it’s never happened.
There’s a major difference between what we consider to be selfish though, and I think that we’ll never come to an agreement on this. Granted, I don’t think you even have vegan friends.Ihad vegan friends. But because I won’t cater to their every whim and desire. I no longer do. And I do not mourn that. It’s absurdly selfish for someone to expect one party to do everything that they ask and never give the other party what they ask. So I say again. Why do vegans ask everyone else to make special arrangements for them, when they make no effort to do the same? How is that not pretentious?If we were talking about someone whose religion barred them from a certain food group, would this conversation still be happening? Take away all the assumptions here, leave it down to just basics.
If you’re throwing a party and you have a vegan friend coming over, and they ask you to have something vegan-friendly available, that isn’t pretentious. It’d be pretentious as shit if they demanded it, but at that point we’re talking about assholes, not vegans. Either way, if it’s too much to ask to have a vegan dish, you’ll just have one person at your party who doesn’t eat and is surrounded by people who are eating. Kind of a bummer, but hey, they can always bring their own food if they have to, right? As long as no one’s being dicks to each other, it’s fine.
Flip it around, your vegan friend is throwing a vegan party. You ask if they could have some steak for you, because you aren’t vegan. Cue HORRIFIED STARE. The difference here is that a vegan is making a choice that involves more than just their diet. One of the things that I admire most about veganism is that fundamentally it’s a mindset. Having a steak ready for you at that point isn’t an accommodation, it’s a betrayal of beliefs. And again, you can always bring your own food, though you might get some nasty stares. Just don’t be dicks, man. That’s all it takes.
I don’t cater to peoples imaginary friends beliefs either. So I don’t give a crap about their religious beliefs either. If they expect me to cater to their special needs, they better be willing to cater to my non special needs. It’s just as much a choice on their part to not eat something as it is mine to eat something. Maybe if someone was born a vegan then I would cater to them. BUT NO ONE IS BORN THAT WAY.
I don’t want to be mean but you’re acting like a white guy who just told a racist joke in a group of black people and they’re all looking at you like you’re a dick, and you don’t understand why they’re mad and you just keep saying “no, it’s okay, I’m not racist, I have black friends”
This “why should I have to accommodate a vegan’s choices when they can’t accommodate mine” debate actually sounds a /lot/ like a white privilege debate.
Have you ever noticed that when a vegan comes over, they always expect you to have vegan food for them. But…
No it’s not. It’s not any more likely. Do you cook steak dishes for your oh so accommodating friends and family or do you only expect them to accommodate you but not vice versa? That’s what this post is all about. Why the hell should I be expected to make a vegan some specialty dish just for them when they won’t do the same for me? Why would I go through all the trouble when they are unwilling to return the favor? Seems really selfish. Really. really. Selfish.
The fact is, they wouldn’t ask for a meat dish. They know that I’m vegan, and they expect me to eat vegan food, and they will also eat the vegan dish because guess what, Vegan food is ‘normal’ food. They usually think “oh, neat, this is what vegans eat” and sometimes go “wow, this is really good.” I don’t know what would happen if they ask me for a meat dish, since it’s never happened.
There’s a major difference between what we consider to be selfish though, and I think that we’ll never come to an agreement on this. Granted, I don’t think you even have vegan friends.Ihad vegan friends. But because I won’t cater to their every whim and desire. I no longer do. And I do not mourn that. It’s absurdly selfish for someone to expect one party to do everything that they ask and never give the other party what they ask. So I say again. Why do vegans ask everyone else to make special arrangements for them, when they make no effort to do the same? How is that not pretentious?
If we were talking about someone whose religion barred them from a certain food group, would this conversation still be happening? Take away all the assumptions here, leave it down to just basics.
If you’re throwing a party and you have a vegan friend coming over, and they ask you to have something vegan-friendly available, that isn’t pretentious. It’d be pretentious as shit if they demanded it, but at that point we’re talking about assholes, not vegans. Either way, if it’s too much to ask to have a vegan dish, you’ll just have one person at your party who doesn’t eat and is surrounded by people who are eating. Kind of a bummer, but hey, they can always bring their own food if they have to, right? As long as no one’s being dicks to each other, it’s fine.
Flip it around, your vegan friend is throwing a vegan party. You ask if they could have some steak for you, because you aren’t vegan. Cue HORRIFIED STARE. The difference here is that a vegan is making a choice that involves more than just their diet. One of the things that I admire most about veganism is that fundamentally it’s a mindset. Having a steak ready for you at that point isn’t an accommodation, it’s a betrayal of beliefs. And again, you can always bring your own food, though you might get some nasty stares. Just don’t be dicks, man. That’s all it takes.